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Ceremonial magic - what is it?


(@betalia)
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I would like to start a discussion on ceremonial magic. What do you think ceremonial magic is? How do you understand it and what are your experiences with it?


   
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 Mara
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Hi @Betalia! I have always been fascinated by ceremonial magic, but it seemed very mysterious and inaccessible to me. I associate it with dark rituals and spells from grimuars. Could you allay some of my fears?


   
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(@sauwak)
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Posted by: @mara

mysterious and inaccessible

"Mysterious?" That's an understatement! Ceremonial magic is no fun for novices. It requires years of practice, discipline and dedication. It is not enough to read a few books and mutter a few spells to become a ceremonial magician.

 


   
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(@hellan)
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Posted by: @sauwak

It requires years of practice, discipline and dedication. It is not enough to read a few books and mutter a few spells to become a ceremonial magician.

Somewhat agree that ceremonial magic requires commitment, but let's not demonize it. @Mara, ceremonial magic is a practice based on precisely defined rituals and ceremonies, often referring to ancient traditions. Unlike folk magic, which is intuitive and spontaneous, ceremonial magic requires discipline, study of symbols and spiritual hierarchies.


   
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(@anima)
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Is it true that ceremonial magicians evoke some dangerous entities? Because I heard something like that somewhere.


   
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(@hellan)
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@anima In ceremonial magic, one does indeed make contact with various entities, but this does not necessarily imply danger. It is important to approach it with respect and caution. Remember that magic is a powerful tool that should be used responsibly. Demons are not just malicious creatures from horror movies. In many traditions, they are seen as forces of nature that can be used to achieve their goals.


   
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 Mara
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Posted by: @hellan

Ceremonial magic is a practice based on precisely defined rituals and ceremonies, often referring to ancient traditions.

Does ceremonial magic originate from any particular culture?


   
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(@hellan)
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@mara The roots of ceremonial magic are quite distant in time. One can find in it the influence of the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, as well as Jewish and Christian traditions. In the Middle Ages, ceremonial magic developed in Europe, with its greatest flowering in the Renaissance.


   
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(@mirta)
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I once read somewhere that ceremonial magic is "a denial of the essence of magic". What do you guys think about this This confused me a bit.


   
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(@hellan)
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@mirta I don't know who or why they say that.

Ceremonial magic has a long tradition and is based on a solid foundation.

Fact some people use it to "make an impression," but that doesn't mean it's worthless on its own.


   
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 Mara
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And what do you think about the claim that a ritual works only once? Does this mean that rituals cannot be repeated?


   
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(@hellan)
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@mara it's not true. It can be repeated.


   
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(@anima)
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And is ceremonial magic related to any religion?


   
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(@hellan)
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@anima Ceremonial magic is not tied to any particular religion, although it may draw inspiration from various spiritual traditions. What is important in ceremonial magic is the magician's personal relationship with the forces he or she is working with.


   
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(@mirta)
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And can you learn ceremonial magic on your own, or do you need a teacher?


   
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(@hellan)
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@mirta You can learn on your own, but it is more difficult and time-consuming. A good teacher can speed up the learning process and help avoid beginner mistakes.


   
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 Mara
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And what books would you recommend to start your adventure with ceremonial magic?


   
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(@betalia)
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@mara I recommend you Israel Regardi's "Magic Kabbalah" and Aleister Crowley's "Golden Dawn." These are classic works that will introduce you to the world of ceremonial magic.


   
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(@hellan)
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"Practical Magic" by Franz Bardon is also noteworthy, although some consider it controversial.


   
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(@mirta)
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And what do you think of "The Keys of Solomon"? Is it a reliable source of knowledge about ceremonial magic?


   
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(@hellan)
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@mirta "The Keys of Solomon" is one of the most important magical grimoires, but it should be approached with caution. It contains a lot of valuable information, but also some dangerous practices.


   
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(@anima)
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And is ceremonial magic legal? Can it be practiced without fear of legal consequences?


   
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(@hellan)
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@anima In most countries, ceremonial magic is legal, as long as it is not used to harm other people. Of course, it is always advisable to exercise caution and common sense.


   
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 Mara
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What about ethics in ceremonial magic? Are there any rules to follow?


   
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(@betalia)
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@mara Ethics is very important in ceremonial magic. Magic must not be used to manipulate or harm other people.


   
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(@sauwak)
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@betalia Some say that magic is a power struggle, and in a fight all tricks are allowed.


   
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Posted by: @anima
Is it true that ceremonial magicians evoke some dangerous entities? Because I heard something like that somewhere.
 

This is not the only use of ceremonial magic, but it is true that in this type of practice there is often contact with beings of demonic nature. However, as much as possible it is possible with the help of the practice of ceremonial magic to contact angelic forces. 

Posted by: @hellan
Ceremonial magic is not associated with any particular religion
 

Untrue. Ceremonial Magic is associated with all current great religions, as well as hidden sects. Whether these people practice Ceremonial Magic correctly and with effect or not is a separate topic of conversation. 

Posted by: @anima
And is ceremonial magic related to any religion?
 

Rather, I would say that the newly emerging religions As well as the old ones, that they are more likely to be associated with ceremonial magic. 

Posted by: @anima
And is ceremonial magic legal? Can it be practiced without fear of legal consequences?
 

Ceremonial magic is legal, but be aware that if you perform a ceremony in which you have to fuck a toddler or teenager, if you are picked up by the police you will be tried for sexual intercourse with minors, but not for the magic itself. The same applies to harming animals, if someone finds out that animals are harmed in a magic ritual then the court will convict for animal abuse and not for the mere fact of doing ceremonial magic. 

Posted by: @mirta
I once read somewhere that ceremonial magic is "a denial of the essence of magic". What do you guys think about this This confused me a bit.
 

Not true. How would magic of its own essence contradict. After all, ceremonial magic necessarily consists of low magic, as well as any other magic regardless of the recognized divisions. I think some moron made such a stupid conclusion. 

Posted by: @mirta
And what do you think of "The Keys of Solomon"? Is it a reliable source of knowledge about ceremonial magic?
 

The so-called Solomonic grimoires, as well as the other texts, are texts for experienced practitioners, although I would prefer to use the word advanced, rather than for laymen. The scientific community dealing with this subject matter, from what I have noticed, unanimously recognizes that they contain numerous misrepresentations and deliberate "deceptions" intended to hide knowledge from the profane or foolish. I myself agree with this position. Therefore, beginners reading these grimoires should be aware of this fact, and also that without a deeper understanding of the subject they should not deal with it mindlessly. 

Posted by: @mara
What about ethics in ceremonial magic? Are there any rules to follow?
 

Ceremonial Magic is Magic, so the ethics are the same as in any other magic system. Nothing to add or subtract. 

 


   
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(@hellan)
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Posted by: @sauwak

Some say that magic is a power struggle, and in a fight all tricks are allowed.

Ceremonial magic is not only about power, but also spiritual development and self-improvement. A true magician is guided by ethics and morality.

 


   
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(@mirta)
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And can ceremonial magic help with spiritual development? Can it enhance my intuition or help me meditate?


   
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(@betalia)
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Of course, Mirta. Ceremonial magic can be a good tool in spiritual development. It helps us to understand ourselves and the world around us, and to connect with higher forces. Rituals Ceremonial can open us to new experiences and deepen our awareness. Many rituals include elements of meditation and visualization to help quiet the mind and focus on the inner world.


   
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(@hellan)
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I agree with Betalia. Ceremonial magic is not only a magic system, but also a path of spiritual development. By practicing rituals and ceremonies, we can deepen our consciousness, understand the nature of reality and connect with universal energy.


   
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